Frogtown landmark served German, Hmong and LGBT communities – fate is now before court

Dietsch's Hall, latest served as the Moonlight Magic Bar, is the historical property at 601 N. Western Avenue  (Thomas & Western Ave.) 

In the 1890s, German immigrants gathered at Dietsch's Hall in St. Paul's Frogtown neighborhood, and today a Somali immigrant couple wants to make it a gathering place for newer immigrants. Their plans have run into a problem: the City of St. Paul is trying to have the building at 601 N. Western demolished. Now the dispute is in the courts, with both a contest over the demolition order and a new lawsuit by the owners, Alex Jerome and Ameena Samatar, alleging discrimination.

Jerome and Samatar say they have enough money to rehab the building and open a business. City officials say they have not provided proof that they have the funds or business plans or architect's plans and bids.

Jerome said he had experience rehabilitating properties, and he already spent $10,000 for initial repairs soon after his purchase. As for the business plans, he said he could not know fully what type of business there would be before he found a way to repair his property that matched with the City’s standards.

He originally envisioned having a wedding hall on the second floor, and some type of ethnic store at the entrance. “I don’t even know what there would be anymore – the city officer asks if I understand the severity of this situation. It is very disappointing to see how I am treated,” he said. 

The Somali couple claims that they were not given enough time to keep up with the City's requests. For example, a major problem pointed by the City Hall officers was the need for rezoning of the parking lot on the property. The rules for the parking lot vary depending on the type of business to be opened, and permission has to be sought from the neighbors.      

“I was not informed about the petition rule for the parking zone until later,” Jerome said, adding that it took him months to get the permission, and by that time the demolition order was already given.

The dispute began when the City of St. Paul decided to proceed with the demolition order on December 21, 2012, after four consecutive hearings to review the progress of property rehab plans. One of the meetings was missed by the owners. Jerome later claimed that they never received the letter announcing the meeting time because it was issued to the wrong address.

The couple bought the property for $49,000 from a local bank on July 17, 2012. An Order to Abate Nuisance already was pending prior to their purchase. The first hearing happened the following month on August 14, to confirm whether the owners had plans for and could afford the rehabilitation expenses. Rehab expenses were estimated to exceed $100,000, as opposed to the demolition costs, which would be a minimum of $20,000.

Samatar provided a bank statement confirming the availability of $50,000 in her account, and said that for the rest, she would get additional loans, according to the hearing transcripts of the August 14 meeting. The hearing officer Moermond requested that Samatar get an affidavit to confirm the funds were solely designated for rehabilitation purposes. No affidavit was filed by the November 27, 2012 meeting, so Moermond said she was “reluctant” to rely on these funds, according to the hearing transcripts. [Hearing transcripts are attached below.]

At the November hearing, Jerome said they had sought loan support from the Frogtown Neighborhood Association, as well as other resources, as advised by the city, but no such loans were available.

Caty Royce from the Frogtown Neighborhood Association said she talked to Jerome a couple times, but he presented no business plans to follow up with them. “He never really asked for our help either," said Royce, "but what I know is that the building has a very important cultural history to the community and I would not like to see it lost.”

The red brick two-story building, historically known as Dietsch’s Hall, was built in 1890 by Joseph Steinkamp. For many years, it served as a gathering place for Frogtown's German community, where wedding and anniversary receptions were hosted. After its remodeling in 1970, it served as the Blues Saloon, then as a GLBT bar called Lucy’s, and finally as the Moonlight Magic Bar, which witnessed the gang beating to death of a Hmong man in 2009. With a history of license violations, the St. Paul City Council finally revoked the bar's liquor license on August 3, 2011 leading to the closure of the bar. The property has been vacant since December 14, 2011, joining the list of 160 vacant properties in Frogtown.  

The case for the property demolition was brought to the court on January 27, 2014. A ruling is expected within 80 days from the trial date.

Jerome and Samatar also filed a discrimination claim against the City of Saint Paul on November 6, 2013. Their claims included an "offensive" comment made by the legislative hearing officer Marcia Moermond, the City’s Senior Policy Analyst, during the August 14, 2012 meeting, when she said "this is a joke" in response to Samatar's introduction as the property owner from Minneapolis.

Jerome’s attorney Elizabeth Royal said, “my client is a Somali descent woman wearing hijab, the full Islamic dress for women,” and apparently her property ownership is a “joke” to the officer. According to Royal, Ms. Moermond argued that her comment was taken out of the context, yet later did not want the audio records of the meeting to be revealed. 

According to a Star Tribune article, "the city says in a court filing that Moermond was referring to the fact that Samatar lived in Minneapolis and made a 'dismissive comment about Minneapolis, which she then said was a joke.'"

The decision for the discrimination case may take up to two years, according to Jerome’s attorney, Elizabeth Royal.

"My clients just want to be given time to prove the City that they have the sufficient funds to fix the building for future commercial use," Royal said. 

 

This is one of a number of articles produced by student interns at the TC Daily Planet. 

 

Coverage of issues and events that affect Central Corridor neighborhoods and communities is funded in part by a grant from Central Corridor Funders Collaborative.

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  • My partner and I have spent the past 5 months negotiating with City staff about the purchase of the Carnegie Library (known as the Arlington Hills Library) on St. Paul's East Side. We made the only viable proposal -- to transform this historic site into a "Freedom Library," with labor, immigration, and African American history books and a range of programs using these resources which would help develop bridges among the diverse racial, nationality, generational, and ethnic groups on the East Side. We also presented a plan to restore, preserve, and renovate this great building. The City staff has put one obstacle after another in our path, and they have clearly not been prodded by elected officials to support a project that would benefit the community. We have spent thousands and thousands of dollars to receive a grim civics lesson -- the government of the city of Saint Paul is a self-referencing and self-reinforcing bureaucracy that has no care for the women, men, and children who live and work in this city. My heart, which is pretty heavy these days, goes out to Alex Jerome and Ameena Samatar, to the Somali community who would benefit so much from their project, and from the entire community of Saint Paul which is so consistently and miserably ill-served by its government. - by Peter Rachleff on Sat, 03/08/2014 - 6:42pm
  • Regardless of all the back and forth between the city and the owners, it would be a pity to see this building demolished. It has some character, is part of the cultural history of the neighborhood, and looks like the kind of place that could be made into something useful. Maybe, someday, the senior center that neighbors Larry and Sharon Paulson have long promoted? - by Anthony Schmitz on Fri, 03/07/2014 - 1:05pm
  • I remember dancing in the upstairs bar and listening to some great bands in the "old Wilebski's". If this building is demolished, we'll lose a BIG part of Frogtown cultural history. That's givin' me the blues... - by Patricia Ohmans on Fri, 03/07/2014 - 5:05pm
  • What can I, an interested citizen do to help? Call the mayor's office. This bldg. needs to be saved and the city council needs to apply some common sense here and a little flexibility. - by Jim Clarin on Tue, 03/11/2014 - 12:32pm
  • The City does seem interested in new business, if it's a chain of some kind. They have dollar signs with each demolition, what about keeping and improving what we have here?? To tear down an building because it's old to build a new one? homes too. Leaving lots empty to rebuild? What about splitting lots, do you think a family might be attracted to having a larger sized lot for their kids, or not hear their neighbors snore at night?? Do NOT demolish 601 Western ave. N, give this couple a chance to fulfill their dream and maybe offer something new and different to our neighborhood. - by Norma Roberts-Hakizimana on Wed, 05/28/2014 - 2:11am
  • I believe the building should be saved. But the people trying to occupy it need to do as they are asked. PROVE you have the funds needed. Ms. Moermond does not discriminate against anyone. She handles a lot of people around all of St. Paul, all races. She has a job to do and that is to be sure the new owners are going to be able to do the work necessary. They just don't seem to be getting the proof they need. If they can't prove it, it doesn't exist. But the city should not tear down the building. The bank should never have sold a building that wasn't workable. And the parking issue should be mute at this point. Until the city knows what type of business is going in, they should not be so concerned about parking. But then St. Paul really is against new businesses. The current administration just doesn't get it. They want to pad their pockets, not really take care of the citizens. There has to be someone willing to do the necessary work into the building to save a vital part of our city. Frogtown will only come back to life if people invest. That includes the city. They have money for every kind of sports facility. How about putting something back into the neighborhoods? - by Mary Lou Monfils on Sat, 03/08/2014 - 5:00pm
  • Sounds as if the St. Paul City Council is about to enter into an agreement for a long-term lease with organizers to establish the Freedom Library in the Carnegie Library Building known as Arlington Hills Library on the East Side. This item is on the agenda for next weeks Council meeting at St. Paul City Hall. The biggest obstacle to the Library being renovated and established as a place to develop bridges is money. Those who feel strongly and who are compelled by this great idea need to step up and find financial support to sustain and make it grow. Good luck Peter with Freedom Library. - by Robb Mitchell on Thu, 03/13/2014 - 8:05am

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