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March 04, 2008

Stephen Gross: “Street-level light rail passing through Washington Avenue, however, is indeed affordable and feasible.” / Arvonne Fraser: Redesign the route – “As we learned from the bridge that fell down, it is better to do things right than rush and pretend that things are fine.” / Peter Bell: “[We] must not let the perfect be the enemy of the pretty darn good…”

Street-level LRT through campus is affordable and feasible


by Stephen Gross, Marcy-Holmes resident

I’m a graduate student at the U, a Marcy-Holmes resident and a big-time transit enthusiast. Since I moved to Minnesota last year, I’ve been very excited about the prospect of the Central Corridor. As with any major transportation project, the relevant government entities have to make difficult but realistic decisions about what is feasible and affordable. As much as I would like to see an underground bullet-train pass through campus, it’s not going to happen. Street-level light rail passing through Washington Avenue, however, is indeed affordable and feasible.

Opponents complain the pedestrian traffic on Washington is too high, and that a street-level train would get in the way. As a student, I spend plenty of time on Washington. I have found that most students cross Washington on crosswalks, at intersections, when the traffic lights indicate to do so. Students are not uncontrollable scofflaws who will jump in front of the first train to come down the road. University opposition to this plan treats students as mischievous children who won’t learn how to deal with a light-rail train in their midst.

Why don’t we give students the benefit of the doubt? We have a unique opportunity to put a viable light-rail plan in place here in the Twin Cities. Why haggle over a $150 million tunnel, when we can be realistic about our ability to adapt to changing traffic patterns? I’d rather see street-level light rail than no light rail whatsoever.

Editor’s note: Fellow enthusiasts of transit and development might enjoy the authors’ blog, The Gross Report

Central Corridor — better right than rushed


by Arvonne Fraser, Marcy-Holmes resident

As a resident of this university area virtually all of my adult life, who lives near the bridge that fell down, I urge the [Metropolitan] Council to do this LRT line right rather than quickly. Although I am president of the Marcy-Holmes Neighborhood Association, I [write] in my individual capacity.

I share the university’s position that a surface line up Washington Avenue would be dangerous and inefficient. Washington Avenue simply is not wide enough for all the trucks, cars and pedestrians that have to use it, plus an LRT line.

Closing Washington Avenue to little but the LRT line would also be disastrous. One only has to drive East River Road to know it is simply not feasible for use by all the traffic currently on Washington Avenue. It is a parkway, part of the Great River roads system. In places, it is so narrow that if a truck is parked at the back of the university hospital, traffic becomes one lane, with a cliff on your left if going upriver. Alternatively, traffic could be diverted to University [Avenue] and Fourth Street through our neighborhood, but those streets are overburdened with or without the 35W bridge.

Thus, the best alternative for the LRT is a northern route, using either the new 35W bridge, which our neighborhood successfully campaigned to be built to hold future LRT, or Bridge #9, now a pedestrian walkway from the university’s east and west banks, formerly a freight train bridge.

The Dinkytown trench, as we call it, could easily be used for LRT. That trench is a railyard, a rail line to nowhere but for one spur ending near the Stone Arch bridge. Diverting the LRT to the north would serve the campus [and] the new stadium and link back to University Avenue beyond the stadium.

I and many of my neighbors urge you [to] take time to redesign a northern LRT route. As we learned from the bridge that fell down, it is better to do things right than rush and pretend that things are fine.

Editor’s note: Ms. Fraser’s comments were formally submitted to the Metropolitan Council on Feb. 6. Since then, the Marcy-Holmes Neighborhood Association has passed a resolution similar to her comments.

Compromises will be needed if Central Corridor LRT line is to be built


by Metropolitan Council Chair Peter Bell

“Let’s build it right.” That phrase often is used when people talk to me about the proposed Central Corridor light-rail transit (LRT) line between downtown Minneapolis and downtown St. Paul.

It is hard to argue with that common sense call to action. That is, until you realize people mean very different things when they use the phrase “build it right.”

Ramsey County officials mean that the 11-mile line should be extended to “the concourse,” a block behind St. Paul’s Union Depot, at a cost of $32 million– $58 million over the originally planned alignment (depending on which of three possible routes was chosen).

The University of Minnesota’s idea of “build it right” includes a tunnel under Washington Avenue through campus at a cost of more than $200 million.

Some community groups define “build it right” as rebuilding all of University Avenue at a cost of more than $50 million and adding three more stations along University at $5.5 million apiece. And the list goes on from there.

When you add up all the various ideas for building the line “right,” the cost escalates to $1.25 billion. I, too, am committed to building the project “right.” To me, that means building the best possible rail line within our very real financial constraints — and a $1.25 billion price tag for this project simply won’t fly.

The reality is this: we cannot afford to build this project unless the federal government pays half the cost. And the federal government won’t partner with us unless we reduce the cost to about $840 million and meet their cost-effectiveness requirements.

Moreover, Gov. Tim Pawlenty has proposed $70 million in state bonding dollars for this project. But he indicated he would be open to considering a higher amount if the stakeholders “get their act together” and agree to reduce the project’s cost.

When considering all the heart-felt requests from the various groups, it is important to remember that no rail transit line has been built in this country without major compromises being made.

You may recall that when the Hiawatha LRT line was first proposed, the some business leaders wanted the tracks to go underground in downtown Minneapolis. That idea, however appealing, had to be dropped because of the enormous cost.

The original plan for the Northstar commuter rail line had it running all the way to St. Cloud. However, because of the costs, the segment from Big Lake to St. Cloud had to be deferred until sometime in the future.

The Central Corridor LRT project offers an exciting opportunity to build upon the success of the Hiawatha line. It will provide improved access to employment, economic and educational opportunities along the corridor and beyond. By 2030, we project that it will serve more than 43,000 riders per day.

Time is growing short for compromise. By late February, the Metropolitan Council must make the difficult decisions about the scope of the project so we can win necessary state funding, apply for federal approval to begin final design and stay on track for completion of the line by 2014.

That means our project partners and community advocates must bring a spirit of compromise to the table and avoid drawing lines in the sand. We must not let the perfect be the enemy of the pretty darn good when we demand that the Central Corridor LRT line be “built right.”

Originally published in January 2008 as the monthly “Chair’s message” by the Metropolitan Council.

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Matty Lang's picture

Ms. Fraser, please stop

With all due respect to Ms. Fraser, I beg her to stop spreading unfounded fear regarding high quality rail transit in Minneapolis. Ms. Fraser fears 2,500 cars and trucks a day being diverted to streets other than Washington Avenue SE in Minneapolis. That’s a narrow way of looking at this issue.

What Ms. Fraser should be focused on is the increase in mobility options in her neighborhood which will lead to many more people being able to leave their car at home or even to be able to sell it off to someone that doesn’t understand economics and believes it will be affordable to drive forever. Ms. Fraser should be focused on removing 20,000 plus car and truck trips through her neighborhood and through campus by enabling those motorists to arrive or to pass through campus via transit, via bicycle and via their own two feet.

In sum, Ms. Fraser (understandably) fears change. The reality is that we need mobility choices and we need them now or not only will Washington Avenue SE be grid locked with automobiles endangering pedestrians and cyclists, but the neighborhoods surrounding the U will be gridlocked as well.

When you’ve got the kind of conflicts Ms. Fraser describes the prudent thing to do is to remove the biggest part of the conflict. In this case it’s the 20,000 plus cars on Washington Avenue SE that rightly will be romoved, not high quality rail transit, not pedestrians (and hopefully) not bicyclists. Peter Bell and Stephen Gross have got it right this time.

STORMY7's picture

rail service

STORMY7

ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS LOOK INTO HOW POWERFUL THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRIES LOBBYIST ARE. THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRIES MAKE SURE U S AUTOS ARE GAS GUZZLERS. THEY FIGHT ALTERNATIVE ENERGY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THATS ONE OF THE REASONS MOST PEOPLE CAN’T AFFORD A HIGH BRED AND WHY MANY AMERICANS BY FOREIGN CARS. WE MUST DEMAND MOVE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT. WASHINGTON SHOULD BE A NO LOBBYIST ZONE.

Ben Ross's picture

Terrible Idea

I’m no opponent to transit, in fact I use busses on Washington every day, but I see the central corridor as not only failing to deliver value, but an actual step down from our current transit situation.

Pumping a billion dollars into our transit infrastructure would theoretically create new transit opportunities for the community. This project does no such thing. Instead, it simply lays tracks on top of an existing transit route (the 16), while pushing a torrent of cars onto side streets that are incapable of handling them.

Moreover, the University has countered with an even more assinine proposal to kick the 1100 daily busses and dozens of routes off the street as well. It is unclear exactly what the school plans to do with their own bus system – the campus shuttle, which moves thousands of students across the river and around campus each day.

Essentially, the 16 bus route becomes a little faster and a little more comfortable at the enormous detriment of everyone else who uses Washington or becomes inconveninced by the displaced traffic.

Despite the arguments on this board, there is no evidence that a central corridor will provide any “increased mobility options”. The mobility options already exist. They’re called busses. Running the same routes on rails does nothing more than give the metropolitan council another colorful line on their transit map.

Let’s be clear that this project is not only not projected to spur a huge increase in transit ridership, it is designed not to cater to too much demand. Adding a third car on the trains would also price tip the scales beyond the magic price range. If the metropolitan council wanted to do this right, they would run the line through the existing rail trench in Dinkytown.

John Hoff's picture

St. Paul Light rail could create a "towing nightmare"

I’ve been trying to get the various powers-that-be to pay some attention to my specific concern about the light rail:

Though I wholeheartedly support light rail, I see the elimination of 600 to 900 parking spaces as creating a “towing nightmare” in a metro area which is, quite arguably, already the “Abusive Non-Consent Towing Capital Of The Nation.”

My frustrating experiences in trying to get my input into the advisory committee, and my specific thoughts about the “towing nightmare” shaping up can be found on my blog, www.towingutiopa.com

Check out towing utopia and, if you have some good towing horror stories, please contribute!

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